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Axebreaker:
Well folks I\'ve tried several different manufacturers in the effort to like plastic figures(economic reasons of course) and sadly it hasn\'t worked for me with the result I\'ve either sold or traded all of them away and don\'t think I\'ll buy more.

Why you ask.

1. They always look like a plastic figure in that either some position or design of a part always gives it away.
2. They weight of plastic figures I don\'t like.
3. It \"feels\" wrong in the hand.
4. Plastics feel like I\'m painting and playing with a toy figure and not a miniature model. Yes I know it\'s all toys, but you can understand my meaning. ;)
5. I hate cleaning and assembly of plastics!! :cursing:

The only exception I think is some of the plastic vehicle kits with a metal weighted bottom are fine as resin can be toxic to work with and metal far too heavy in this case.

Buying and painting only metal figures is fine with me as I\'m not the worlds fastest painter so I don\'t need to horde figures or buy in huge chunks so expense isn\'t too bad as it takes me awhile to finish an army spreading the cost over time.( not that I don\'t have a large lead mountain of course! :rolleyes: ) Transportation isn\'t a problem either as I have both a car and a games room.

I\'m a lead head and will remain so and I can say this not out of snobbery as I did give plastics a fair try, but from experience I\'ve had.

How has the plastic vs metal experience gone for you?

Christopher

Schrumpfkopf:
Plastic somehow takes imaginative value away from a miniature.

Obviously Plastic is advantageous, especially in the field of Napoleonics.
But I really try and stay metal and even tend to prefer inferior metal casts
to superior plastic casts. (They have so much more character!?)
Resin however doesn\'t turn me off as much as hard-plastic does.
Weird.

My whole idea resembles the basics of stamp-collecting in ways.

Draconarius:

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I mainly collect scales where there are no plastics (except for one or two ranges). However I can comprehend your reasons and I agree especially on the vehicles.
One main problem of the plastics I ecountered was that they are quite tempting cause you get a lot nice figures for a small price, but when you have the box, you must cut the parts from the sprues, clean them from excess materials, assemble them and paint them.

Hanno Barka:
It totally depends on the miniatures in question. If I like the figure i don\'t care if plastic or lead. Sure lead \"feels better\" in the hand but in the end it\'s the optics i care for. Of course Plastic looks diferent than metal - the materials have different characteristics and what can be casted and what not isn\'the same thing. But imo different doesn\'t mean better or inferior - it\'s just that - different. A good sculptor knows the characteristics of his cast and therefore will concentrate on it\'s strenghts and won\'t try to tinker around with it\'s weaknesses.
So if the mini looks good will be more dependent on how good the scculptor is and what he can achieve within the boundaries the material sets him.
There are plastic ranges I like (the Perrys\' ACW or the Fireforge knight\'s templar and their seargents) and some i don\'t like (Warlord\'s British Commandos) and some in between (Warlord\'s Wehrmacht or the Vikings from Gripping Beast) and teh same goes with tin. Generally most of my armies are not made of a single range so even if they contain plastics they will contain lead too...
What I hate on plastics is the assembling process - most figures have sooo many parts and as I play few skirmishes but collect mostly mass armies variety in poses is of little benefit to me. The number of poses that make sense are limited in a big unit - especially if it\'s drilled (I don\'t want my Napoleonic bataillons looke like a bunch of undrilled irregulars) - on the other hand it\'s great for irregulars - 3 or 4 poses are sufficiant for that though  too usually imo, as you can bring a great deal of variety into the unit with the help of your paintjob - well de gustibus non est dispudandum so the ancient Romans said. Leadfigures are assembled so much quicker as they contain only a few parts if more than one.

So as a conclusion - I use both - metals and plastcis whatever suits my needs better in the actual project.

Axebreaker:
Ooops thanks guys I did forget to add I also hate the cleaning and assembly of plastics and duly added! :wacko1:
Christopher

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