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[Wellington]

Hallo!

Ich bastel mir gerade für unsere Aufbaukampagne mittels der L&S War of Roses Liste, der WAB Liste und dem L&S Punkte System ne passende Liste:

Hier mal die ersten Versuche ...

0-1 Command Group
AV=1/2/3; C=5, Mounted, Full Plate Armour
1 Lord (LV 4), sword, 48pts
1 Army Banner man (LV 2), Banner, sword, shield, 48pts
0-1 Musician (C=3), trumpet, sword, Heavy Armour, 16pts
0-3 Knights or Men-at-Arms (LV 2), sword, 38pts
Notes&Upgrades
- The Lord can be upgraded to Stubborn (+20pts) or to Confident (+30pts).
- You can provide one or more figures with Lance at +3pts each.
- You can provide any figure with a mace +7pts or a 2 handed weapon +8pts. These can either be in addition to a sword or the sword cost can be removed at -5 pts.
- Figures can dismount.
- You can provide Horse half plate barding (-> horse barding according the rules) for 2pts or full plate barding to any horse at +4pts per figure.
- You can upgrade the unit to Veteran for +4pts per figure

Feudal Knights and Men-at-Arms
AV=1/2/3; C=5, Mounted, Full Plate Armour
1 Noble (LV 3), sword, 43pts
0-1 Banner man (LV 2), Banner, sword 41pts
4-12 Knights or Men-at-Arms (LV 2), sword, 38pts
Notes&Upgrades
- You can provide one or more figures, except the Banner man, with Lance at +3pts each.
- You can provide any figure with a mace +7pts or a 2 handed weapon. These can either be in addition to a sword or the sword cost can be removed at -5 pts.
- Figures can dismount.
- You can provide Horse half plate barding (-> horse barding according the rules) for 2pts or full plate barding to any horse at +4pts per figure.
- You can upgrade the unit to Veteran for +4pts per figure

Mercenaries

Mercenary Knights
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Mounted Crossbowmen
AV=1/2/3; C=4, Mounted, Mercenary
0 - 1 Sergeant (LV 1,C=4), sword, light crossbow (14/2), 25pts
0 - 1 Standard bearer, sword, flag, 26 pts
6-20 crossbowmen, sword, light crossbow (14/2), 23pts
Notes&Upgrades
- You can provide any figure with Heavy Armour at 4pts er figure


Mercenary Infantry
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Mercenry Handgunner
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Mercenry Crossbowmen
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Landsknechte
AV=1/2/3; C=4, Mercenary
1 Sergeant (LV 1,C=4), sword, 28pts
0 - 1 Standard bearer, flag, 18pts
6-20 Landsknechte, pike, 16 pts
Notes&Upgrades
- You HAVE TO give each figure a dagger at +1pt per figure or a sword at +3pts per figure (except models already equipped with close combat weapons).
- You can provide any figure with Heavy Armour at 4pts er figure

Landsknecht Handgunners
AV=1/2/3; C=4, Skirmishers, Mercenary
1 Sergeant (LV 1,C=4), sword, handgun (12/5) 28pts
6-20 Handgunners, handgun (12/5), 19 pts
Notes&Upgrades
- You HAVE TO give each figure a dagger at +1pt per figure or a sword at +3pts per figure (except models already equipped with close combat weapons).
- You can provide any figure with Heavy Armour at 4pts er figure

Landsknecht Crossbowmen
AV=1/2/3; C=4, Skirmishers, Mercenary
1 Sergeant (LV 1,C=4), sword, light crossbow 29pts
6-20 Crossbowmen, light Crossbow(14/2), 21pts
Notes&Upgrades
- You HAVE TO give each figure a dagger at +1pt per figure or a sword at +3pts per figure (except models already equipped with close combat weapons).
- You can provide any figure with Heavy Armour at 4pts er figure
- You can upgrade each figures ligh crossbow to heavy crossbow for 1 point per figure

Militia

Militia Infantry
AV=2/3/4;c=3
1 Sergeant(LV 1, C=4), sword,14 pts
0 - 1 Standard bearer, flag, 8pts
6 - 20 Militiamen, long spear 6pts
Notes&Upgrades
- You can give any figure a dagger at +1 or a sword at +3pts
- You can give any figure a polearme at +4pts
- You can give ALL figures with long spear a pike at +3pts, only figures with polearms or the sergeant und the Standard bearer ar not upgrades

Militia Crossbowmen
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Militia Archer
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Rückmeldung ist erwünscht!

[Neidhart]

Passt, können wir ja langsam weiter entwickeln, wenn wir die entsprechenden Einheiten aufstellen.
Die Waffe für die Landsknechte würde ich verpflichtend machen. Immerhin ist der Katzbalger ein prominentes Ausrüstungsstück. Über den Punkt dagger oder sword kann man die Qualität der Truppe steuern (über diese Waffen wird ja nur die Initative und damit der potentielle Wiederholungswurf geregelt). Also:
Notes&Upgrades
 - You have to give each figure a dagger at +1pt per figure or a sword at +3pts per figure (except models already equipped with close combat weapons).
 - You can provide any figure with Heavy Armour at 4pts per figure.

Die Mercenaries würde ich dann in zwei Arten bringen. Einmal genauso wie die Landsknechte und einmal mit C=4 und AV=2/3/4, quasi die undisziplinierteren Berufsschläger.

[Wellington]

Danke!

Das mit den Landsknechten hab ich eingebaut, die Mercenaries kommen noch. Bitte auch gerne mal nachrechnen.

Ich bin dafür dass wir beim 250 Punkte Formatden Satz \"In this format you filed just one Unit that must be created following the specific army list\" gegen \"In this format is focused on a Unit versus one Unit, but can be reinforced by troops from 2 other Units of the same army. For such attached figures minima required  by their list can be ignored. At leas 3/4 od thew buget must be spend on the main Unit\". Dann kommt am Anfang schon etwas mehr Variation rein.

[Neidhart]

Sollten wir wie von dir vorgeschlagen machen.
Die Sergeants sollten alle nur mit einem Schwert oä. ausgerüstet sein. Passt besser zu den Vorlagen, vielleicht nur die Option auf eine Trupp ähnliche Bewaffnung. Können wir ja gleich bereden.

[Wellington]

Du hast recht,ich bau die Sergeants bei Gelegenheit um!