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[steffen1988]

Was mir bei allen Boxen von Warlord Games besonders gut gefällt sind Illustrationen die scheinbar jedesmal vom selben Zeichner stammen und dadurch unglaublich gut harmonieren.

[T. Dürrschmidt]

Die Zeichnungen sind alle von Peter Dennis. Unverkennbar. Der ist ja einer der Haus- und Hofmaler von Osprey. Und die wiederum arbeiten eng mit Warlord-Games zusammen (bringen auch deren Regelbücher raus).

Zu den Figuren....sehr schön. Endlich mal ein weitgehend unverbrauchtes Thema (für uns Kontinentaleuropäer). Da lässt sich bestimmt zwischen den Packungen einiges mischen. Der Schnitt der Uniformen ist ja fast identisch....falls nicht Warlordgames selber das übernimmt und in jede dieser Packungen den nahezu gleichen Inhalt legt, nur mit unterschiedlichen Fahnen, ein paar Hüten oder Helmen und Kommandofiguren...so wie sie es bei den ECW-Plastiksets gemacht haben.  :whistling:

[MacGuffin]

Wenn sie nicht ganz neue Rahmen gemacht haben, unterscheiden sich NUR die Flaggen.
Zumindest erinnere ich mich nicht an irgendwelche Varianz diesbezüglich in meinen Boxen von WGF. Aber ist lang her und nicht weit gediehn seinerzeit :S

Mir erschließt sich aber auch nicht, warum sie dann nicht lieber zwei Bögen in eine Box packen und nur die halbe Anzahl unterschiedlicher Waren listen müssen...

[Riothamus]

Wegen der Dummheit des Menschengeschlechts?

[Sir Leon]

Naja, es sieht halt nach mehr aus und ich glaube, dass sich Anfänger sowieso immer wohler fühlen, wenn ihnen wirklich klar ist, was sie da tun. Ich erlebe sehr oft, dass Leute in unserem Hobby nicht sehr gut damit klarkommen, wenn man ihnen sagt, dass ein bestimmter Sachverhalt historisch nicht eindeutig belegbar ist und sie das daher selbst entscheiden können, wie sie es machen wollen. Freiheit kann so ätzend sein...

[Riothamus]

Ja, Anfängern mag es entgegen kommen.

[steffen1988]

Naja, bei dem Starter Army Set sind auch Flaggen für beide Seiten enthalten. Bei den Boxen für ECW haben sie bei Infanterie und Kavallerie zuerst getrennte Boxen für Parliament und Royalists veröffentlicht, wobei diese sich auch nur durch die Flaggen unterschieden. Später wurde diese zusammengestrichen und Boxen mit Flaggen für jeweils beide Seiten veröffentlicht.

Beim Boxinhalt gehe ich davon aus das die Gussrahmen identisch sind.

[Riothamus]

Vielleicht wegen des Marketings in Frankreich?

[steffen1988]

Die Artikel sind bei Warlord Games nun alle gelistet:

Infantry of the Grand Alliance - 16.00 BP

Infantry formed the main back bone of any force within the history known world, the man makes the army. Drilled to near perfection, trained to withstand anything and fighting for a just cause, these men are determined to fight and die for their country.

Within this boxed set you will find all the parts necessary to recreate many of the units that fought for the Grand Alliance. Each box is designed to allow you to create a 24 strong battalion consisting of 20 rank and file, two standard bearers, one drummer and one officer. The variety of heads allows you to re-create each nationality as well allowing you to personalise your army and make each unit unique. The drummer has a mitre head or a tricorne, depending on the nationality of the regiment you are creating, whilst the Officer may have a sash to the side or front. He also has a choice of sword or pistol to lead his men against the dastardly French.

You will also find enclosed a selection of colours carried by the nations of the Grand Alliance. Presented here are Dutch, English, German and Scots regimental colours along with the colours of the British Guards regiment. Also provided are head options, pouches and belly boxes to allow you to create a separate company of Grenadiers to replace the line infantry. The headgear worn by the Grenadiers often varied between nationalities but those included here represent most commonly used.

Contains:

• 24 plastic Allied Infantry:
  • 20 musketeers (options to build four grenadiers).
  • 4 command figures: officer, drummer and two ensigns.
  • 4-page background and assembly guide including eight full-colour flags.

Cavalry of the Grand Alliance - 20.00 BP

Cavalry tactics during the period were in transition. Some cavalry were still firing their pistols at the enemy to disrupt their formation before closing at the trot, a tactic that had proved successful against pike armed infantry.

Within this boxed set you will find all the parts necessary to recreate many of the cavalry squadrons that fought for the Grand Alliance. Each box is designed to allow you to create a 12 strong
squadron, consisting of 9 cavalrymen, one standard bear, one bugler and one officer. The variety of heads and bodies allow you to re-create numerous cavalry types, as well as allowing you to personalise your army and make each unit unique. Grenadier heads have also been included for your to model the elite Horse Grenadier squadrons. Included are standard cavalry bodies, which may be combined with tricorne heads to produce line cavalry. Also, bodies with cuirass are provided for heavier cavalry who may also have tricornes or the heavy \'Lobster Pot\' design. For those of you who wish to use these miniatures to represent Dragoons, spare muskets have also been provided to model this often underrated troop type.

Sword arms and pistol arms are included to allow you to choose which tactics your cavalry will employ. Will it be pistol at the trot, or swords in a headlong charge?

Contains:

• 12 plastic cavalry including officer, bugler and optional standard
  bearer. Options for cuirassiers, dragoons, horse grenadiers and line
  cavalry regiments.
• 4-page background and construction leaflet including eight full-colour flags/guidons.

Infantry of the Sun King - 16.00 BP

An army is also a symbol of their king, his prestige and majesty so it\'s only right that the King Louis\' own army will be the most powerful within Europe to represent him as the most powerful king. His men will deliver the Spanish throne to him, no matter how many \'puny\' countries band together to stop him.

Within this boxed set you will find all the parts necessary to recreate many of the units that fought to support the claim of Louis XIV. Each box is designed to allow you to create a 24 strong battalion consisting of 20 rank and file, two standard bearers, one drummer and one officer. The variety of heads allows you to re-create each nationality as well as allowing you to personalise your army and make each unit unique. The drummer has a mitre head or a tricorne, depending on the nationality of the regiment you are creating, whilst the Officer may have a sash to the side or front. He also has a choice of sword or pistol to lead his men against the Holy Roman Empire and their dastardly
allies.

You will also find enclosed a selection of colours carried by King Louis\' fores and his allies. Presented here are two French line regimental colours, one Bavarian regimental colour, and one colour of
the \"Wild Geese,\" Irish regiments in French service. Also included are the colours of the French Guards.

Also provided are head options, pouches and belly boxes to allow you to create a separate company of grenadiers to replace the line infantry. The headgear worn by the grenadiers often varied between nationalities, and sometimes between regiments, but those included here represent the most commonly used.

Contains:

• 24 plastic Allied Infantry:
  • 20 musketeers (options to build four grenadiers).
  • 4 command figures: officer, drummer and two ensigns.
  • 4-page background and assembly guide including eight full-colour flags.

Cavalry of the Sun King - 20.00 BP

Some cavalry units used their modern tactics but others stuck to their traditional methods, such as the Duke of Marlborough\'s cavalry, they were ordered to charge headlong with swords drawn to maximise the shock of impact.

Within this boxed set you will find all the parts necessary to recreate many of the cavalry squadrons that fought for Louis XIV. Each box is designed to allow you to create a 12-strong squadron, consisting of nine cavalrymen, one standard bearer, one bugler and one officer. The variety of heads and bodies allow you to re-create numerous cavalry types, as well as allowing you to personalise your army and make each unit unique. Included are standard cavalry bodies, which may be combined with tricorne heads to produce line cavalry. Also, bodies with cuirass are provided for heavier cavalry who may also have tricornes or the heavy \"Lobster Pot\" design. For those of you who wish to use these miniatures to represent Dragoons, spare muskets have also been provided to model
this often under rated troop type. Grenadier heads have been included for you to model the elite Horse Grenadier squadrons that some nations employed and the early French
Grenadier à Cheval.

Sword arms and pistol arms are included to allow you to choose which tactics your cavalry will employ. Will it be pistols at the trot, or swords in a headlong charge?

Contains:

• 12 plastic cavalry including officer, bugler and optional standard
  bearer. Options for cuirassiers, dragoons, horse grenadiers and line
  cavalry regiments.
• 4-page background and construction leaflet including eight full-colour flags/guidons.

Artillery Battery - 20.00 BP

The effective use of Artillery during this period was still in its infancy. Most guns were heavy and cumbersome, and once deployed usually did not move again during the battle. Trained artillery men were also rare, with soldiers from the ranks often drafted in to help move or man the guns.

Within this boxed set you will find all the parts necessary to create three artillery pieces. This is a choice of barrels allowing you to choose either eight pounder or twelve pounder options. Each gun is manned by four crew, who have a variety of head and arm options to allow you to vary their appearance as much as you wish. Their dress and appearance allows them to be used as generic artillery crew for the majority of European nations during this period. Also included are spare barrels, buckets and roundshot to decorate your artillery bases and to make your guns look like they are in the heat of battle!

You will also find enclosed three mounted officers. These can be used as commanders to direct your artillery or, should you so wish, they can be detached to act as Colonels or Brigade commanders for your infantry or cavalry. Sufficient head and arm options are provided for whichever option you choose to make.

Contains:

• 3 plastic artillery pieces (with a choice of 8- or 12-pounder barrels)
• 12 multi-pose plastic artillery crew.
• 3 plastic mounted officers.
• A selection of cannonballs, barrels and buckets.
• Background and construction leaflet.

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Den Beschreibungen nach wurden die Gussrahmen bei der Infanterie umgestaltet? Wäre sowohl dämlich als auch beschissen wenn man keine Pikeniere mehr aus der Box bauen könnte wenn nur noch ein Kommandogussrahmen mit vier modularen Modellen enthalten ist und die restlichen Modelle Monoposen haben.

[Darkfire]

Jetzt bin ich auch gespannt auf die Figuren...ob das Command aus Zinn ist? Klingt auf jeden Fall danach, als hätte jemand seine Hausaufgaben gemacht.....

Zu Früh gejubelt, die auf der WG abgebildeten Figuren sind nur die alten Plastkoptionen für Drummer und Offiziere und die beiden Standard earer sind eifektiv die \"Pikeniere\". Weiß jetzt nicht ob da wirklich was am Gussrahmen geändert wurde. Ursprünglich waren 3 Figuren/Gussrahmen, das würde heißen 8 Gussrahmen ist 24 Figuren. Das einzige was mich stutzig macht, ist die angebliche Pistolenoption für den Offizier.

Man wird sehen, aber nachdem ich noch 7 Boxen WSS Infantry Figuren von WGF hab, werd ich sie mir noch nicht so schnell zulegen.

[steffen1988]

Wäre nicht schlecht wenn Warlord Games Bilder der Gussrahmen veröffentlichen würden.

[Riothamus]

Fehlende Piken klingt erst mal enttäuschend.

[steffen1988]

Veränderte Gussrahmen hin zu fehlender Option auf Pikeniere (und wohl auch auf ältere Hüte) wäre umsomehr verwunderliche und unverständlich, da die ursprünglichen Gussrahmen doch auch für die Zeit vor 1700 geeignet sind. Sollte das stimmen, wäre es eine sehr selten-dämliche Entscheidung von Warlord Games und ein massives Eigentor.

[emigholz]

hehe 50% weniger Minis bei fehlenden Waffenoptionen und teurerem Preis  :wacko:

[steffen1988]

Wenn jemand die Boxen von Warlord Games in die Finger kriegt oder sich bestellt hat soll derjenige sich bitte melden.