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Allgemeines => Tabletop News => Thema gestartet von: emigholz am 10. April 2013 - 10:08:29
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Victrix News:
The gun we have been making for the resin 54mm French artillery is a
computer generated model, as was our British gun from our 28mm plastic
set. This is then going on to become a master for the 28mm French
artillery we plan to release this year. Initial plans for these would be
pre-Bardin regulation set with 8 and 12 pounders and a howitzer of
Gribeauval design. (And yes, we know the French were using the XI system
as well at this time alongside captured Prussian and Austrian pieces
but we can’t make everything or please everybody.) We would then make a
later French artillery set in Bardin uniforms with XI system 6 and 12
pounders with howitzers.
Other sets schedules for release this year will be our Punic Wars
Romans we showed at Salute last year plus a set of unarmoured Greek
Hoplites and a set of Greek javelin men / Peltasts. We are looking at
adding archers and slingers to these two Greek sets. These will really
help round out our armoured Hoplite sets we released last year.
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Ich hab das mal aus dem Agema-Thread herausgezogen, geht hier ja nicht um Agema.
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Irgendwie kriegt victrix nicht so richtig was auf die Reihe und alles irgendwie auch so laaaaangsam.
Naja, franz. Plastikkanonen wären cool, gerade auch mi dem ganze Kleinkram. Vielleicht kriegen sie auch mal n Pferd in den Ari-Rahmen...:)
DV
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Ich hate es nur dort rein gepostet weil da gerade die Diskussion Richtung Plastikkanonen ging und es zufällig heute las. Weiter unten ist noch was über Römer usw.
Da ich Napos Franzosen gerade aufbaue und bisher nur Perry und Victrix Plastik gekauft hatte und eigentlich kurz davor war Zinnkanonen zu bestellen werde ich nun aber doch warten da eh noch genug zu bemalen. (Össis von Victrix sind dank der coolen Aktion ja auch unterwegs)
Was die Diskussion angeht ob soch solche Boxen lohnen. Ich denke schon, ich würde mir zb definitiv mehr Ariboxen kaufen wie zb Grenadierboxen oder Boxen einer bestimmten Kavallerieeinheit die man halt nur einmal braucht. (wenn jemand in einer Armee 120 Grenadiere der alten Garde hat, also 2 Boxen Victrix, dann kann mir keiner erzählen das er nicht auch 2-4 Boxen Ari dazukaufen würde bei der Armeegröße)
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Auf der Victrix Seite gibt es noch ein paar mehr Informationen:
\"Sorry it has been so long since we updated the website. Victrix only being me (Steve Hales) and Julian it is hard to find the time to do some of the Website admin jobs amongst all our other work which keeps us very busy. We have slapped each other on the wrists for being so neglectful and I drew the short straw to do this long update!
It certainly has not been quiet for us as we have been spending most of the past year in research and development of new methods for producing plastic sets with our tooling company. This will enable us to gain more momentum with regular releases. So this has involved researching digital sculpting and tooling.
One of the problems with some digital sculpts is that they can look a little lifeless and stiff. There are exceptions to this rule, namely being Games Workshop and Zvezda who do some wonderful sets.
Quite often the computer sculptors involved are very good sculptors but generally don’t understand that what looks good on screen, does not translate well to a finished plastic model, resulting in soft ill-defined detail. So part of the learning curve we have been going through has been working with our sculptors to help them understand the connection between their work and the finished product. We have been experimenting with totally digital sculpting, and scanning of traditionally made masters, and combinations of the two.
We are happy with the progress we have made and will be releasing our first partially computer generated set as soon as possible after Salute. This will be the Hanoverians set. The main bulk of the set is the British centre company set VX0001 but with added head pads containing Hanoverian heads in Stovepipe shako, Belgic shako (with plume on the front for Hanoverian Line Battalions) and soft caps. This is a small set for us to test the technology and sharpness of detail. Initially this set was advertised to be released at Salute but we wanted to sharpen the detail and had to resolve undercut issues which caused longer than expected delays. Our sculptor has done a lovely job adding character to the faces. We will be showing some images of the heads soon.
The British Light Battalions set is also delayed along with the Hanoverians. They will follow later in the year after the Hanoverians, as we really felt we wanted to add in the British Riflemen sculpts we showed off a year or so ago. The Rifles were put on hold due to not being able to see a way of selling enough boxes to make them viable economically. However, adding them to the light Battalions set solves that problem to a degree, and adding heads for 95thand 60thRifles plus KGL light Battalion heads gives them a lot more versatility.
The recent advert for Wargames illustrated stated a lot of products we hoped to have out for Salute, however most won’t be out in time we are sorry to say. The problem sometimes with print advertising is ads must be submitted a long time in advance of publication. So sometimes we really don’t know if a product will be ready in time - but can’t leave it out of the advert in case it is. A time machine would be very handy in these circumstances!
New products out for Salute will be the new unobtrusive movement trays. We have an infantry and cavalry set. We should be receiving test shots for those in about a week’s time. A lot of movement trays we looked at on the market seemed to stand out too high from the table. We kept our trays as thin as we could go before causing problems coming out of the mould, with thin edges so there were no large spaces between trays alongside each other. The infantry tray is 120mm by 40mm internal dimensions and the cavalry tray is 100mm by 50mm internal dimensions with a little jiggle room to account for basing material overspill. We also added a very slight lip to the underside of the tray to enable easy pick up from the table - which can be difficult with thin trays and large Wargamer fingers!
The new 54mm figures are delayed and won’t be out for Salute. If the situation changes we will keep you up to date. New releases will be in resin and comprise 2 packs of French standard bearers, a British Light Battalion officer and sergeant with pike. They will follow as soon as possible after Salute and will then be followed by 54mm British and French artillery. \"
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Das ist doch mal eine ausführliche Info von Victrix - und - herrlich frei von dem selbstverliebten Sales Geschwafel, das andere Unternehmen einem dauern entgegenschleudern.
Auch wenn einige Boxen nur alte Teile mit ein paar neuen Komponenten werden, freue ich mich auf den nächsten Output von Victrix und wünsche denen alles Gute!
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Tolle Sache, wobei das mit dem selbstverliebten Selbstgeschwafel mMn. so nicht stimmt -
One of the problems with some digital sculpts is that they can look a little lifeless and stiff. There are exceptions to this rule, namely being Games Workshop and Zvezda who do some wonderful sets.
Das sehe ich doch schon als Seitenhieb in Richtung Konkurrenz, GW und Zvedza sind ja keine direkte zu Victrix
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nenne mich blauäugig ... aber das sehe ich nicht unebdingt gegen einen Seitenhieb geggen Ihre (ganze) Konkurenz sondern ich selbst denke da ist was Wahres dran.
Bestes Beispiel ist WGF (War Games Factory).... die bringen schöne Sets raus und decken auch viel unebackertes Zeitgeschehen ab jedoch wirken die Miniaturen immer etwas \"steif\" und leblos (sorry das ist eine schöne Beschreibung ;) )
WGF :
(http://kamar-zinnfiguren.de/catalog/images/wgf-rs-001.8.jpg)
Perry:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x203/Honsou_Eshara/SAM24.jpg)
... OK, ein wenig unfair wegen Metal vs. Plastik ;)
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11th April 2013 Computer generated models update
We thought we would show you a few examples of what is being worked on
at present as we have had quite a lot of interested emails from
customers since we put our new news up.
(http://www.victrixlimited.com/images/han%20heads%201.jpg)
Firstly we have a few renders of some of the Hanoverian heads being
worked on. One of the things you will notice is how chunky a lot of the
details are. Details have to be over exaggerated so that the tooling at
28mm scale remains sharp. If we were to sculpt the computer models with
exact thicknesses of shako cords, shako plates etc... they would end up
with very soft detailing in the finished product. Our sculptor has done a
great job in getting the character into the faces which has become a
trademark of our figures.
(http://www.victrixlimited.com/images/punic%20head%201.jpg)
The next example is of the Punic Wars Roman head. The first image is of
the traditionally sculpted 3 up master model. This was then scanned and
turned into a computer model. This was cleaned up and ready to tool.
One of the pleasing aspects of this method is that it retains a lot of
the imperfections which add life and character from the traditional
sculpt. You can get this with a straight computer sculpt but just have
to work into it more as our sculptor has done with the Hanoverian faces.
(http://www.victrixlimited.com/images/peltast%20montage1.jpg)
Lastly we have a fully modelled Greek Peltast. This has been scanned
from a traditionally sculpted master and then cleaned up and enhanced.
The beauty of this method is that as it is scanned from a traditional
master we know that all proportions and bulk will fit perfectly with our
existing models, so the change over from traditional pantography to
digital means there will be no glaring change in style and size.
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12th April 2013 New transfers added
Steve has been busy working on some new transfer sheets.
(http://www.victrixlimited.com/images/hop%28vl%2913.jpg)
Firstly we have a new sheet for our Ancient Greeks. These transfers are
for the Hoplite shield aprons that hang at the bottom of the shields.
These lovely colourful designs will really help your Hoplite units stand
out on the table. You could also use some of these for standards if you
applied them to paper and hung from a cross bar.
(http://www.victrixlimited.com/images/54VXT001.jpg)
We also have 7 new sheets of 54mm Canteen, backpack and rank insignia
transfer sheets for our 54mm British Napoleonic’s. These really add that
finishing touch to your figures. Should they prove popular more will be
added to the range.
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Falls noch nicht bekannt:
9th August 2013 Just added 54mm French standard Bearers and Britsh Light infantry officer and sergeant to the shopping cart
We have just added the new 54mm resin French standard bearers, British
Light infantry officer and British sergeant with spontoon to the
shopping cart.
All the packs come with metal Imperial Eagles for the flag poles or a
pike head for the British sergeant, You have to make your own poles form
plastic rod or thick wire.
The resin is easy to cut and has a good amount of flex! so none of this brittle stuff which causes breakages.
In the next few weeks (hopefully the beginning of September depending
on the resin casters) we will have a pack of British light battalion
heads to make our British into Light infantry. And we will have 54mm
French Artillery. It will be an 8 pounder with 5 crew. So keep your eyes
peeled for this rather lovely looking set of figures.