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El Cid Impetus style!(Update 06.05 skirmishers added)
« am: 25. Juni 2012 - 15:13:08 »

I spent the whole past week and a half or so converting my WAB El Cid
Christian Mercenary army to Impetus (very happy with the new look) my
game of choice for Dark Age/Medieval wargaming.

A quick re-cap behind the army concept. It \'s a Christian Mercenary army
with a heavy Moorish influence that finds itself employed by Muslim
Taifa Kings ,but more often then not in the employ of the Christian
kingdom of Aragon between the years 1090(King Pedro) and 1135(Alfonso
I) covering both El Cid\'s period and the early Reconquista under
Alfonso I \"The battler\".

The army so far gives me a hefty 300pts in cavalry which is substantial
in 28mm. but not unusual for Christian Spanish armies of the period.
With that in mind I figure that\'s plenty cavalry for now and I should
probably add some foot slogging support. I think about 100pts or so of
heavy infantry, formed missile support and some skirmishers are in order
to give me a sold base for my army.

Once I have about 400+ points I\'ll start on the Moors either on this thread or a separate one.

My foreseeable future looks to be Samurai, ACW, Spanish Reconquista dominating with some AWI and SCW here and there.

Thanks for viewing! :)

















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« Antwort #1 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 15:24:16 »

beeindruckende armee!!! wirklich genial... und die basierung von impetus ist doch immer wieder schön anzusehen! tolle arbeit!
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El Cid Impetus style!(Update 06.05 skirmishers added)
« Antwort #2 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 15:27:15 »

Beautifull miniatures and very many of them... :thumbup:

What I am missing is perhaps the Impetus-effekt. Where is the advantege of the big bases, if you don\'t add anything than stones and gras... 8o
I would add some gimmick, some little story from interacting figures, one or two bits of additional scenery, wich gives an ideo of the scene (roadshrine)...
It now looks too plain to me, just like in the old Warhammer-Days: only miniatures oh the base.

Sorry for that long critic: your painting is exceptional good, Christopher... :thumbup:

And I really like the background of your army.

DV
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« Antwort #3 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 15:56:29 »

Thanks for Nice words and comments. :)

Zitat
What I am missing is perhaps the Impetus-effekt. Where is the advantege
of the big bases, if you don\'t add anything than stones and gras...
Ease of movement and I\'m trying to give the impression of the wide open plains or a Savannah that is the common feature of Spain.

Zitat
I would add some gimmick, some little story from interacting figures,
one or two bits of additional scenery, wich gives an ideo of the scene
(roadshrine)...


The non natural diorama approach isn\'t always suitable and in fact if you notice most(not all) of my bases are very natural as I don\'t like things added that are static. For example buildings, roads, immovable fences, statues are static and so look good for camps, but not IMHO suited for units that are moving. Most of my bases are designed to look natural wherever they stand on the table and is my personal preference.

Zitat
It now looks too plain to me, just like in the old Warhammer-Days: only miniatures oh the base.
I disagree as the basing was deliberate and like I said intended to give an open Savannah like effect. I actually believe basing is very important and I put quite a lot of thought and consideration into it even if it may not appear so on this army.
Zitat
Sorry for that long critic: your painting is exceptional good, Christopher... :thumbup:
No problem I\'m comfortable in my hobby and I welcome opinions and questions behind what I do as long as they are conducted in a friendly and constructive manner like you have just done. Feel free to ask more and/or question why. :)

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« Antwort #4 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 16:23:31 »

Looks great and i really like the bases. :blush2:  ( I\'m no big fan of the \"walking diorama/forest/lake/ruins\" stlye of impetus.. but hey, de gustibus non est disputandum)
Anyways...rebasing has to be the most awful task the hobby has to offer, you really showed a good deal of stamina here.
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« Antwort #5 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 17:12:44 »

@JS

I agree with you as I try to have a combination of nice looking, but natural looking bases that work for me. :)

Oh and it was quite some work to re-base! :pinch_1: However, I am happy I did it. :)

Christopher

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« Antwort #6 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 18:14:33 »

Eine echt tolle Armee. Mir gefallen die Bases übrigens auch sehr gut, wie sie sind.
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« Antwort #7 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 18:14:41 »

Nice one and really very beautiful toy soldiers!
I kind of like the bases, especially for soldiers in action, more so for cavalry units. I have some scenery on my BI-bases (War of the roses) but mainly for missile troops. I will do some cavalry in the near future, might be a quite open base as well.

They only problem I have with your army, it looks too good. I have a very strong feeling of copying it.....I really love the mix of different styles and types of models, splendid idea and superbly executed!

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« Antwort #8 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 18:59:23 »

What a view :smiley_emoticons_pirate_shocked:
11 bases of cavalry...that´s indeed a massive force.
And again, in case of cavalry bases: No diorama ! Horses need room, I wouldn´t expect to meet them in the deep woods...or my garage ;)
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« Antwort #9 am: 25. Juni 2012 - 21:58:20 »

Thank you guys for your support! :) Now start building those Impetus armies! ^^

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11 bases of cavalry...that´s indeed a massive force.
Actually it\'s 14. :tomato:

Christopher

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« Antwort #10 am: 26. Juni 2012 - 19:43:48 »

Whoa, nice!
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« Antwort #11 am: 27. Juni 2012 - 19:58:24 »

Yeah, they look massive/impressive 8o  great job  :thumbup:
Its always nice when you try to use the space on an impetus base to tell a little story. But for me the real thing is that it represents a whole unit, even when there is just a handful of minis and that works for me. So no more single based miniatures on an awful regimental tray.
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« Antwort #12 am: 27. Juni 2012 - 21:37:45 »

14...of course :blush2_1:
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« Antwort #13 am: 27. Juni 2012 - 23:38:34 »

Thanks gentlemen for the nice words! :)

Zitat von: \'Tellus\',\'index.php?page=Thread&postID=113985#post113985
Yeah, they look massive/impressive 8o great job :thumbup:
Its always nice when you try to use the space on an impetus base to tell a little story. But for me the real thing is that it represents a whole unit, even when there is just a handful of minis and that works for me. So no more single based miniatures on an awful regimental tray.
Yes indeed those days are in the past for me as well for all my gaming except a few skirmish systems. 8)

Christopher

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« Antwort #14 am: 01. Juli 2012 - 12:34:14 »

Sehr gut, Christopher! Bemalung, Schilddesign und vor allem die Fahnen sehen super aus.
Ich finde, man sieht auch, daß du gut über die Basierung nachgedacht hast. Die Farbtöne auf der Base harmonieren sehr gut miteinander und vermitteln den Eindruck des kargen Bodens Mittelspaniens. Auch wenn ich zu den Fans der kleinen Dioramen auf der Base gehöre, finde ich deinen Ansatz nachvollziehbar.
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