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Angrist:
well the reports i read about enemy at the gates says that there was no evidence of any german super special sniper send to stalingrad

but it seems to depend on which report you read (they all tend to start wit \"newest researches have shown ....)

Axebreaker:
Only people who have a predjuice and don\'t like the idea of their best getting beat. ;) It\'s common knowledge that it happened.It\'s an a old story and only after the film did their emerge this new theory. :rolleyes: The film was wrong in how it actually happened.A bit less dramatic of course.They saw his scope lens and pow! end of story.You may believe what you wish,I choose to believe the first one.I\'m sure you can find some who don\'t agree.It\'s still a good film showing Stalingrad in my opinion. :)

Angrist:
Ok, let´s both have our opinion, won´t change the world very much ;)

but i think we drifted a bit away of this threads topic theme, so maybe we should end our little argument here :)

Axebreaker:
Fair enough, ;) but it\'s still fun to have some discussions.So,we agree to disagree. :)

Grenadier Christian:

--- Zitat ---I have to disagree. :(
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So do I! :D


--- Zitat ---Troy is loaded with battles that try and show you what fighting was like at the time.I do like they way they humanized the people in the story.If they followed Homer the Characters would have been laughably godlike.It does carry alot of inaccuracies by portraying it more in the classical period and not earlier.Lets face it,the earlier period would have looked to funny on screen.so,in this case that can be overlooked.This also had a large impact in the wargaming world and in the general public drawing people in.At least they made it more believable then say 300! :puke:
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I´m sorry, but the whole \"war\" affair in \"Troy\" is wrong, starting from equipment (which looks like souped-up classical greek stuff, but not late bronze age wargear ) to the vast armies arrayed - from what little is known about that era, it still was pretty much an age of heroic duels and warbands, but not tens of thousands advancing in a huge block of troops and retreating on a single word from their king! I´ve perceived \"Troy\" in a similar vein to \"300\" in that it recounts a fictionalised epic story, although \"300\" did a much, much better job of capturing that \"campfire\" or \"dining hall with a traveling bard\" feel.

--- Zitat ---Gladiator was a fantastic film from start to finish. :pump: Again,there are inaccuracies but this was overcome by the story itself.This movie has had a massive impact in drawing people into this time period in television and in wargaming.The battle scene is first rate in showing how the romens fought.It was without doubt a very inspirational movie and must be viewed this way.
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Again, this movie was neither a realistic depiction of Roman battlefield tactics nor Gladiator ritual (in effect) combat. The use of massed artillery in a field battle is almost totally unaccounted for (although Caesar, for example, used numbers of scorpiones to cover river crossings, and during sieges, of course). The disorganised charge of the legionaries is a bit strange as well. The Gladiator scenes are wrong from start (equipment, which was very rigidly formalised at that time) to finish (organisation of combats, I mean, depicting a ROMAN battle? Unheard of!) and everything inbetween (those ridiculous pylae in the colosseum arena). Overall, it IS a good movie due to the actors and the overall attention to detail and production values (which may be 80% wrong, but at least look totally nice).

--- Zitat ---Enemy at the gates is based on fact.Of course they got a few things wrong but in essence they told a true story.There was a famous russian sharpshooter that stalked Stalingrad I have forgotten the name it began with a V(Valastsky?or something)and the germans did send their best sharpshooter to deal with him and he was killed.(of course in a different way then the movie.)This movie showed just how brutal the conditions were at Stalingrad and had good combat scenes.
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Vasily Zaytsev was a historic figure, though I cannot comment on the \"German Master Sniper\" episode.


--- Zitat ---Alamo is personal taste I guess,I just like the older version more. :)
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It´s an American foundation myth, done as a labour of love of Mr. Wayne during the Cold War, so we´ll let it slide. :D Haven´t seen the new one, though.

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